His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. Are they married, Lo. In our synastry chart we have moon trine pluto and mars square pluto. It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. Obviously the hard ones, like by a square or an opposition, adding to the (possibly) destructive passion! Its not a square but there isnt much info out there on the conjunction. These aspects or connections have a "mean't to be" feel to them, it's a potent place to look at in synastry. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. I know somebody whose Moon conjuncts his Dejanira (30 minutes). If it feels too, too good to be true, it often is. His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! Your email address will not be published. I would have to see the rest of the chart to tell more though, my Friend. You are not an astrology god that holds the key to the entire truth. Yes, these asteroids have to be in a very close conjunction with other planets ( or a very close square) to be dangerous. In Roman mythology, Eros was known as Cupid. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? Eros Conjunct the Midheaven: This synastry aspect will be quite powerful for both parties since it will impact the way that the world views them. I know this is not my website, so I cannot change how you write and it is not my business to dictate how you write. People tell me the same thing they tell me with Nessus. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. Love, If they are conjunct in synastry, a soul mate connection is indicated. How does that play out? They play out to have a certain pattern to the relationship. Both of them are loaded with sexual power, so their interaction is often explosive. Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. 12 degrees is WAY too much to be conj the ASC, my Friend. I have to always be honest. I have not seen it fail in all of my chart work. Not sure which one id prefer. Try to post the charts so see a visual! I have my nessus conjunct with my true node. Come and post the charts. My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). In the rare instance where these two do meet, the results are truly awe inspiring . I would have to consider the scenarios more. Who does whom, so to speak? About Nessus/BML, I would watch it. But, I will take sides with Sydney on this issue. . Thats not the truth. Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. Thats why its so weird bc it is a very good longterm relationship. Your analysis is lovely. I wasnt abused as a child in any way. 2) I just started going out with a guy, we have good chemistry and just checked our natal charts and see we share amazing aspects except for my dejanira. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. The same with nessus conjunct ASC? what would the double wammy of sun and pluto look like? Eros wants intense encounters that lead to lasting transformation. I am sorry. I hope I can do this in my articles. And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? Thank you for your comment. This is my opinion and other people may differ but I call things as I see them, Mandy dear. In this video we will discuss the aspects between #Sun and #Eros in a synastry chart in Mix - Eros and Sun in Synastry! Hello, what a great article, thank you. Do these asteroids have to be conjunct planets or square each other to be dangerous? Priapus is likewise called a "minor rustic God" or even "an oversexed gardening God." I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? Well you may want to take advantage of their trust and innocence. About YOU being the Nessus with your b/f. I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. You, as the Pluto in the trine with his Sun and venus could kind of see through him lol, Thank you Amy for your reply We are both passionate, but luckily, by nature, not violent people thank God . Grace dear How we respond to this synastry contact has a lot to do with our own relationship to power and sexuality. There are millions of possible outcomes, and none should be claimed as the truth. -Eros conjunct their personal planets ( Sun,Moon,Venus, Mars etc.). The chart is complex and one has to look at the entire chart to draw very global conclusions. What would that mean? She is raw sexuality which will not be dark if it touches Venus imo and Welcome , what if I have my Lilith conjunct his juno and his venus. Coming from a standpoint of being an archaeologist, we can interpret and theorize things ourselves all we want, but an archaeologist telling a crowd of people that their own interpretation of the past is the TRUTH would not only be incredibly wrong, but it would also be detrimental to people that no nothing about interpreting and analyzing archaeological sites, therefore they would take that persons word even though it is not truth. I have some extreme aspects and I shudder to think how they would be expressed had I not had saturn at the top of my chart who keeps things in check via a grand trine involving some big bad planets. Her theme is power-alluring and irresistible. tell me your story, if you care to, Juice dear. Thank you so much, Love. Great questions. I also have moon trine neptune, venus conjunction chiron snd more aspects to do with empathy. For your daughter, watch out she does not get sexually abused. You say that you want a nuclear passionate relationship. Asteroids and aspects do not control people. Sometimes I nurture sometimes he does. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. One other thing that might be helpful with this asteroid pairing, and one that I think is quite meaningful. However, this person would have to play it out before he overcame it. His Nessus makes no major aspect to my planets, except a 3 orb trine to my Mercury and North Node, and Vertex..could this mean well step on each others toes when it comes to reaching our goals? I dont pay that much attention to Deja conj another asteroid. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a. or you consider just the closer orbit? My Nessus square his Venus . Im not meaning to argue if it sounds like it, its just damaging for ignorant people to come find posts saying that bad asteroids are always going to play out no matter what they do because that leads them to believe that everything in astrology is linear and has only a small set of possibilities that people cannot escape. This was likely a more romantic or sexual relationship instead of something that sustained itself day to day. My venus is conjunct someone's eros right now. I am honored to have you as a valued member of my website family , Ivs, why dont you come put your chart in my Personal Readings Forum. I have my DEJA conjuncion JUNO in my house 6 My dejanira is in opposition to his sun and without any other aspects. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. What do you think? 1. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. I also have Nessus in 22 Virgo exactly opposite my Sun, conjunct my Asc in 18 Virgo, and I am NOT an abuser, unless its in self defense.Either way, I dont enjoy hurting people. I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. Do you think I need to worry about the Nessus/BML conjunction or about abusing the poor wounded birds I keep looking for? Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 My guess is that it would be an obsessive relationship where both would try to hurt each other? Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. It is like sky diving. Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. That can be justified through basic psychology, I think. What is your opinion on I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. I think Chiron is extremely important in any synastry chart because it speaks to the deepest wounds created between two people. in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. How do we honor Lilith in our lives? 8. They have a very imaginative sex life. Eros in Aries makes a person love the chase. The Nessus person brings abuse to the ASC/DSC person. I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. But I do see this possibly helping people with many bad aspects that could show any possibility of abuse in their own chart already whom have actually been through anything so that this can help them feel validated about past or current pains, but its not good to deem things as going to play out in time just because they havent yet in a long standing, healthy relationship. When Eros touches the Sun, the energy of both the Sun and Eros awaken between . That would be my guess. In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. There are many, many possibilities in astrology, even infinite if Im speaking on the complexity of each persons chart. ami, what would nessus trine dejanira in synastry indicate. what would result from this? Thanks :), in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. His Pluto sextile my moon, His Jupiter conjunct my moon and his Neptune conjunct my moon, also his mars opposite my venus, is that conducive to passion and helping me release my cancer 8th house sun conjunct north node repressesion? I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. However, there is a flip side. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. Also, our vertexes are separated only by 7 degrees. Before I leave this subject, I will add my theory. I believe her Dejanira is conjunct his Nessus by one degree. I cant really relate to Nessus at all, though I sometimes think I can feel BML itching under my skin. You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. There is NO way this will work out well, in my opinion. Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. Thanks SO much for your kind words. She has never treated me as less than, and she is extremely giving. I have seen it in a few people, only. The Lilith person brings sexual energy that is literally untamed. DRACO CHARTS (DRACO-NATAL/ DRACO-SYNASTRY) Originally posted by kellyaroman What is a draco chart in astrology ? "I want to welcome you to my website. To make it simple for those of you who are on the same path, Ive rounded up the top 5 placements that indicate a past life marriage. xxx, This may make Nessus and what it means i.e abuse, something that is a deep subject with you and on one which you contemplate. The planets, asteroids, and stars do not cause only one particular outcome. Ami is an insightful astrology. Any other aspect will show a wound through marriage, but the marriage wasnt necessarily involving both parties together. Thank you for your words. Next: Synastry Books Compared . Amazing emotional+sexual chemistry though there was some bumps in the way. I seem to be one of the rare people doing it lol. There was some sort of karma created, whether the relationship was painful or whether one person abandoned it. I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. All this is square my Moon. Is it relevant? Knowing more. To summarize, I would say that Mars/Pluto could be passionate sex and passionate emotions but no soul.If a chart had no Moon aspects and Mars/Pluto aspects, I would say it would be a fling. With mercury and Uranus in Scorpio. Well, maybe, but dont most abusers have a history of childhood abuse themselves? Mars pluto aspects Eros is also prominent in their synastry. As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. Im pluto and he is the moon. I'm still not even sure if Eros/Lilith contacts are positive or negative? That would seem to be the case but sometimes, the strength of these aspects get the better of us, so it is hard for me to answer. I didn't eroticize his everyday actions. Where did you get these theories from? It will not heal anyone to tell them that they are wrong when they say that their relationship is healthy and happy even though they have an aspect that you think is destined to be unhealthy. These are too many questions for text. They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. You could post it in my Forum if you would like, Eva. Who would bring who abuse? Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. The first would be Nessus. We all have Liliths plutonic quality in us, the unconscious energy that brings up harsh boundaries between life and death, ecstasy and suffering, passion and revulsion, enslavement and freedom. If one does not see any abuse when this happens, my opinion would be that they dont know the person enough lol. Your email address will not be published. Playing with someones emotions when these aspects are involved could lead to bad things such as violence. There is precious little practical info out there on asteroids. How about choose one aspect and I will try to help, T. Not to be rude, but this is incredibly fatalistic. Would the aspects to the venus offset the negativity that the Dejanira implies? Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. OkI really cant comment on the sign, per se. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. That is my commitment to my readers. It sounds really bad I guess, but this person has given me so much positivity and encouragement and I feel has set me on a positive path. It is disrespect to Astrology which I love and respect. Moon/Pluto does not have to be dark sexual but if any planetary aspect would be, it would be this. But I did find out that her Amor conjuncts their Dejanira-Nessus conjunction, so her Dejanira is conjunct her Amor. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. I am the nessus person and I admit to having some devious tendencies towards anyone with neptune in that position. I have moon opposition pluto. Thanks for your posts Ami. I am new on this and finding all this information was revealing, so now I will stick to questions about my dejanira and nesuus. Is there a good part to Nessus/deja conjunct? It was a relationship based on dates and romance instead of the realities of life. Thanks you, Jos. we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. I am so thankful to have such a resource like this for guidance. And You can say you did it and you can help the next person who comes along. Lovely and very filled with passion! Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . This totally depends on someone as a person. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. As one of the four largest asteroids (along with Vesta, Pallas, and Juno), Ceres is usually analyzed in the birth chart. I think most people of the same time period would have it though, so it is not that big of a deal, I think. Set his time to 12 midnight but TELL me, so I know before I look! I just found out my abusers Moon is 1 degree conjunct my Dejanira. If a mans Nessus conjuncts, your Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or North Node, he will abuse you, in my opinion. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). I need to put it altogether after several hours of study to answer well. Drawing that authoritarian feminine energy into the already present power themes must have been really overwhelming, just flooding in from every corner. What does Nessus and Dejanira mean when conjuncting each other? How will these aspects play out? Can this aspect be calmed down by a Mars conjunct Saturn contact? I asked if I could post their charts but my friend isnt comfortable with it. Posts: 376From: Western Massachusetts, USRegistered: May 2009. Nessus conjuncts BML, and Dejanira conjuncts DSC and Pluto. Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. It may be off a few minutes and change things. (Conjunction, Opposition, Trine, Sextile, Square! Those interpretations CAN happen, but they are not destined to. 3 degrees is wide but this is one of the hardest aspects in the whole chart, so please be vigilant, as I know you will be! But I always have the feeling that people want to abuse/fool me in one way or another and they get surprised when I respond, I constantly need to stand up for myself in any sort of situation, from the cashier in the shop to colleagues at work. Moon oppose Pluto and Moon square Pluto could tend to be dark because they are powerful and not with a harmonious flow. What does this conjunction mean in a synastry? This vertex conjunction shows up again like in my previous relationship. Vertex conjunct the ascendant is a frequent synastry aspect in the charts of romantic partners. I have found that when someone's personal planets make strong aspects to someone else's natal Eros, a strong sexual bond and attraction is indicated. Eros and Venus in a synastry chart! She is deeply alluring and irresistible. Hi To me, you may really struggle with falling into the victim role and would have to keep pulling yourself up over and over until you get real traction which could take some time, oh im sorry. These parts of you would flow well i.e may not play out in actual asbuse but would still be issues you both would deal with i.e abuse/victimhood imo I have not seen the trine in actual charts, dean. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. What about this aspects? . Thank you Ariel! If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. Yes, astrology charts do show the truth of ones life, but the issue is that YOUR opinions do not equate the truth. I know it is not funny but the charts will play out, in my experience, anyway. With asteroids, I would accept a 3 degree conjunction, tops. This is based on experience and charts, as are all my theories. Will be keeping my wits about me. Hi, anyone can tell me more about a double whammy Pluto-Venus? My Sun and Mercury sandwich this conjunction by four and three degrees. 3. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. Sun sextile/trine/conjunct Moon is often found in marriage synastry charts. That Pluto/DSC has been a source of confusion and frustration for me for a while, but now it makes sense. Am I right? Thanks! Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. His dejanira is conjunct with my sun. This only works with a synastry chart, and (as always) is simply my own opinion! How do you relate to all the men who have their Pluto there? With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. You can have Mars/Pluto with a fling and not feel a thing in your emotions.We have the same kind of weighting with the conjunction, trine, opposition and square as we did above. Ive only been studying astrology casually for 5 years, so even though I know the basic interpretation of those planets in contact, Id still love to hear it from a pro love your blog! It takes me several hours so I could not do it here. Lol just noticed what you wrote at the end about Mars/Uranus, sorry! Hi Ami. I remember the first time I discovered how to read a synastry chart; I worked with mine and my boyfriends for about 6 hours. I do charts for the people who want them. His Dejanira is in 25 Scorpio, conjunct my Part of Fortune in 27 Scorpio, opposite my Moon in 29 Taurus and Mars and Jupiter, in 0 Gemini. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. The Lilith person might have trouble with issues surrounding desirability. Dejanira (female) conjunct Saturn (male) Lilith, both Black Moon and Asteroid 1181, brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger, rejection and rage. In some past life, at some point, weve been married to almost everyone weve dated or had some type of relationship with. <3, Hi AmiAnn, do you have any thoughts on this? If you do this, Astrology will serve its purpose, which is to warn and alert people to possible problems and even dangers. Her NN on his 7th makes me think its a past life hold. Any comments will help. I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. If you want to ask me a simpler question, I am game! 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. In fact, it is the opposite. Hi! There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. However, if the time is right, for sure, I would trust the chart over a personal account. Hardly. I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. Lilith is looking for sacred sex. (both in Capricorn) Most potent are Eros-Venus, Eros-Ascendant, Eros-Psyche, and Eros-Mars links. Also, our vertexes are conjunct in the same degree. Things to look for in synastry: Here we focus on indications of sexual attraction using Astrology as our tool. So the theory doesnt check out. on Dejanira and Nessus. What does that mean? That doesnt mean youve never been married. I dont really understand the aspect you are asking about. If you see Nessus in synastry, make sure you know which side of the fence he is on. You interpret things based off of your own view. From the outsider's perspective, Eros and the Ascendant person will seem as if they are living the romantic experience only witnessed in films. Hi Amiann, how do you think nessus square neptune would play out in synastry, lets say if its almost exact. All of astrology is neutral. Also, how does moon conjunct pluto in synastry differ to moon conjunct pluto in composite. Welcome, Ariel and great questions. You both feel admiration for each other. This isn't always a bad thing, however. However, if you have Nessus/Dejanira and Mars/Uranus, particularly in hard aspect( opposition and square), it may make for dark spice, shall we say. That is why I dont mince words. It makes my day , What conjuncts the DSC, we disown and find in the partner. Hi, I, always, have people want to tell me that Nessus is not always abuse.