It was more of a suggestion, like getting in an office. She can immerse herself into a good story no matter the genre or form and only come out from it when she's had her fill. I guess you are a disciple of Luther, youre not anti Semitic like he was are you? "They do what they feel is right based on the evidence they have.". May I test you on this? It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. What's wrong with the House of Bishops' proposed same-sex prayers? 4given By that account we are all guilty, except it would seem for MLD.. To err is humanto forgive..divine. Pastor Bob has always reminded his congregation that they should look to Christand not to man. Is it ok, in your world view, that I feel a profound sadness at the pain and destruction his betrayal has caused him and those in his universe? I have had pets with more emotional and spiritual maturity than you. Great article to consider: http://touch.sun-sentinel.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79853971/, The only ones that are monogamous are the ones who have no choice because theyre either too old, too fat or too ugly or too poor. Refuse to let that man and his family go. The case was closed in 2016. "I was brought into the Lutheran church without a choice that's where I learned what a religious environment was like, but I was missing the spiritual thing.". Even the disciples were surprised by what happened. Whats the big deal, so he diddled a few broads, werent they consenting adults, how can anyone judge, maybe they had an open marriage, comman people relax its only sex, it only last a few minutes, what is that, like less than 5% of all the other things hes doing for the church, leave the guy alone, I dont see any women complaining, didnt King David have a few dozen women standing in the wings waiting for their turn, and how bout Solomon, a few hundred to choose from, well dont read their works in your Bible then, and isnt every pastor guilty of adultery if you take Jesus words seriously, that to look upon a woman with lust youve already committed adultery, using this criteria shouldnt every pastor in America be fired, give the guy a break, hes a good teacher, everyone strays a little bit and has a little strange on the side, many wives know this and realize it doesnt mean anything, just a little release. Or are they not equally guilty. She didnt want Vince to have to make the difficult decision of whether to turn off her life support, either. Bob chose to do that.. I hate replacement theology. I know for sure that I wouldt want my own sin, and hypocrisy exposed for the whole world to see. #805 yeah considering that all of MIchaels info is inaccurate. People who know what they are talking about get bored real fast. Coy wouldn't be charged over her allegations. He resigned because he had no choice. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the THOUSAND YEARS were finished. my neighbors are heathens and not under the law of Christ.further I will be raising you in prayer because you obviously need it since youre so bitter and are caring so much burden. Steve Wright, your comment number 478 was pure gold. MacArthur isnt a wolf in sheeps clothing, hes just a self-righteous pious a-hole from the pulpit, but at least he tows his own line in his personal life. Lordship doesnt mean sinless but you cant have Jesus as savior without Him also as Lord they go together. This is the first resurrection. They had plenty of time to tell their people and they already had prepared for their family meeting. Let this be a sign to you, that if by this time next year calamity has not befallen you, to teach you to not malign Gods work and kingdom! People have gifts, given by God apt to speak is one of them. So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news.. Any ideas? So 100 percent of all complaints should be at those in church leadership who leaked the news. I appreciate what Alan wrote last night, and look forward to what he will continue to share. It was not readily available. Which church did you go to in that was a John Macarthur affiliated church? Is Coral Ridge Post? "If we go off the record, I could tell you a lot," he says. If they were told that , it is no secret where they are. Again I presume your a single woman. My parents are Catholic believers. Good for you. I Am His: Diane Coy. He confessed to it. Im what you call a baby Christian. And did you go to bed with them? Way to take it out pf context monk. Kate Forbes: Would a Christian be permitted to lead Scotland. He had other associate pastors go publicly in front of the congregation after their infidelity. Lets not use this thread for our personal theological musings, please. God forbid he get a real job like the rest of us. Given the opportunity of beautiful young women throwing themselves at at men, 99.9 percent of men would fall. Sexual sin is appealing, addictive and readily available especially in this internet age and when the relationship at home is not following Gods plan and design (and yes, it even happens in homes of church leaders) it gives way to justification for sin to prevail. I am obviously perfectly aware of what I quoted and what you quoted as the posts show. This will be my last ever participation in one of these exchanges. Church, youve accomplished nothing through this. they will mention Israel 100 times for every mention of Jesus Christ. I think so in time. list . this Calvinist preterist teaching is a rotting festering leaven in the body of Christ today!, Wow Ill let my reformed friends know that theyre not really saved because Hugh said so. 10 czerwca 2022 In that you are named well. A woman told Coral Springs Police she had recently learned something terrible: A South Florida man had molested her daughter for years. Jesus Christ will come again to the earth personally, visibly, and bodily to judge the living and the dead, and to consummate history and the eternal plan of God. But some thought it was financial issues. Can you please point me to the confession of these women? I think they need to clean house in order to restore confidence. If the congregation projects their own meaning onto what moral failure meanswellthere are as many meanings as congregants and not a one really knows what happened. Michael and erunner, thank you for the kind words. He has been instrumental in changing and saving thousands of lives, including my own. I regards to where to go to church Yours is a very special and personal relationship with God and you are blessed with so many choices in this area. Coy then moved to an even more debauched scene: Las Vegas. I suspect you are an attendee at CCFL and you are angry, but dont shoot the messenger.. there was a guy who did so once, reluctantly. Jerry Falwell called Bakker a liar, an embezzler, a sexual deviant, and the greatest scab and cancer on the face of Christianity in 2,000 years of church history, In 1988, Falwell said that the Bakker scandal had strengthened broadcast evangelism and made Christianity stronger, more mature and more committed.. Amillennialism is for those that refuse to take the Bible literally, and shuck it off as if it just originated in the last 150 years (which is a lie, since all the first believers were against this ghastly false doctrine). Check out any of the Reformers on the anti-Christ, Michael wrote: Dispensationalism was unheard of until the 1800s. Im learning all about a day in the life of MLD. He would regularly "finger and fondle her" genitals, make her touch his penis, and "dirty talk" to her. Maybe I can help you with the math 42 months = 3.5 years 1260 days = 3.5 years. Can the congregation recover? Is Israel becoming a nation not a fulfillment of prophecy? Do those people have a right to know? Coy is lordship salvation enough that he has undoubtedly taught it in such a way as, now, the finger is pointed at him. Unless you are being slanderous libel and defamation of character. This is exactly why we are to rely on God and not in man. I have learned some truths I did not like but have stuck around here for a long time. Thanks for the attribution Michael, thats how it went down. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. Coddington was known for clean, elegant designs combining old school with what would come to be known as the "Boyd Look". we were gone by then. Its a gift you have that really helps me have a better understanding of things. Young Sheldon Season 6 Episode 14 Recap: George and Mary Breakup? I have no issue with him looking at porn. Adultery creates a ripple effect that grows outward and touches so many lives not just the two involved and it takes two willing participants to maintain. The best counsel I received was to keep my eyes on Jesus and off of man. Nada. Thank you. Instead, other churches were bought out. Larry Erickson, later the chief designer of the Mustang and Thunderbird for Ford Motor Co., worked with Coddington early on, and specifically credits the CadZZilla collaboration for jump-starting his career. For weeks we have had to listen to bozos saying that we are hypocrites for saying certain unmentionable behavior is wrong while not dealing with this type. Maybe thats a byproduct of not letting women hold leadership positions. May the same be done to Bob Coy. Matt. Im so glad you kept your eyes on Jesus and didnt let men destroy your faith. This is bad for the pastor, bad for the general congregation. Most of those folks may stop sinning in some areas, but then the sin of pride and self-righteousness (which the bible says god hates) seems to dog this Group post-saved. "But we need to remember it is Jesus Christ who is our leader and not man.". Where did you ever get the idea that the millennium was to be disneyland?? Let us gather in prayer for the church, the family as well as for Bob that restoration, deliverance be thy restored. "That changes today. I dont think so. No excuses, no buts. Afterwards BC was the poster boy for raising money and he spoke for Crown Financial on how to get the church to give. Police said they couldn't find enough evidence to press charges, but the staffer claimed the church forced him to resign for alerting the authorities. [6] I would like to see some evidence for your claims. As they sank into plush, arena-style seats and flipped open well-thumbed copies of the Bible, Coy's followers quickly noticed something was very wrong. "We need to stop him. . She works with children! Amen to #639, especially your last paragraph, Ps40. You didnt have the integrity and honesty to answer my question, and now you want me to answer yours! These pastors are lifted up and deified and made into celebrities, so then it becomes Bob Coys church Raul Riess church Greg Lauries church instead of the Church of Jesus Christ, and when these men fall the little gods we had erected fall and then we can hear God say, I am God and I am still on the throne!. So if the message was right the hearing and application of that message will produce the right fruit! God takes this specific sin very seriously as He allows for divorce when it takes place. My heart is with his family and that congregation. Grace Bible Church Plantation. So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. Daughter And as you look at these Pastors, one used to run the cafeteria (Did he have any biblical education to become a Pastor)?, one is BCs brother in law, and one is his nieces husband. Did you commit adultery with them? E, I would also question that you didnt know right from wrong before you were saved. The infallible Word of God, the sixty-six books of the Old and New Testaments, is a complete and unified witness to Gods redemptive acts, culminating in the incarnation of the Living Word, the Lord Jesus Christ. We need to pray hard for this man and his family because the enemy is fighting intensely to bring the faithful down. http://www.charismanews.com/us/43401-confessing-moral-failure-megachurch-pastor-bob-coy-resigns-calvary-chapel-fort-lauderdale, Ok, Ill just vent then. Sorrow for anything done or said; the pain or grief which a person experiences in consequence of the injury or inconvenience produced by his own conduct. Brian Brodersen is the senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, the president of the Calvary Chapel Bible College, and the director of Creation Fest (UK). If youre so incredibly stupid as to think Id print something that inflammatory without proof, I really cant help you. I actually have people Im accountable to and I speak with them almost daily. And when teachings are propounded that God is through with Israel and that the Jews have been punished by God because of their rejection of Christ and that God has removed himself completely from Israel. That is so true. Deny that all you want, its the truth and you are a foolish if you think he is not doing his best to forget this happened for awhile. Share. Please remember the mercy and forgiveness that out Heavenly Father has shown you before you judge or cast stones. At the same time I will stand with every CC pastor who is seeking to do church the right way. They were the ones with the power to fire him, and they did so. Police say Thomas has admitted to the abuse (though his criminal trial is pending). How do you KNOW that Israel on the Mediterranean is the Israel of God? Man is capable of all sorts of evil even saved 2. Should we handle this any differently? I completely agree with Michelle @175. maybe you could pray for everyone and call it a day. My ex CC pastor is following Coy in his vision of mult-sites and to me its just not a good vision at all especially when the pastor falls like this. Im pretty sure if it had been men, that Coy would have got nuked at a higher temperature. His fame went to his head. I can see this except for one very big deal. I understand giving Bob grace. Power corrupts. It will take much longer possible years for healing with his family but it is worth it and will take work. You give yourself a severe disadvantage by doing so, whenever you are discussing doctrine with someone. vimeo.com. Pastor Chuck Smith in 2006; the Calvary Chapel phenomenon, which now includes more than 1,000 churches nationwide and hundreds more overseas, began with the 25-member church Smith founded on a Costa Mesa lot in 1965. Coy's preaching career ended, but his sex scandal was far from the first for Calvary. To all who insist he honorably initiated his resignation: His last fb post (Thursday at 3:37) was I cant wait for beach baptisms next month! Does that sound like a man who plans to end his pastorate that same evening? This website is, usually, dominated by people that hold to one very narrow view of eschatology. Finally discover what ACTUALLY happened, from the mind of a former soccer mom ad. Good luck with that bridge. I am a crazy renewal charismatic and a covenant theologian but NOT a Calvinist. Sharon is still a strong and encouraging leader for her firefighting unit despite the sadness of losing her daughter in a car accident involving her son Bode. but dont confuse the two ! It boggles my mindboggles itthat you want to haggle over the terms of removal of someone who we now know had at least two affairs and a porn problem. The good works and true worship rendered to Jesus by the people in this fellowship need to honored, promoted and protected within a leadership environment that regards Jesus and holy and true or they need to be redirected and redeployed elsewhere . As opposed to Scotts comment I appreciate your candidness:). Why do people keep blaming satan and setting up some evil master plan against God? Hes on the radio and all around the world. The case was thus closed and made "inactive" in October 2015 pending the victim's cooperation. Its in the public record that for working part time for Grace To You in 2011 he earned $402,000. The consequences suffered by the fallen leader will be very instrumental to how the sheep, who are in this flock, respond when faced with their own similar temptations. Isnt it the Lord Jesus that transforms lives and grows places of worship? I know He is not finished with them yet and I will always believe in His promises to never leave or depart from them! Or thought of someone else while youre with youre being intimate with your wife? in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually. So although Bob did at one point attempt to put rots in Pompano God had other plans, much like Noah getting swallowed by the great fish after being thrown off a ship and subsequently deposited in the land where God intended him to go. His board are all obviously morons. Rest assured, God will not be mocked.". It falsely teaches that a person must walk well enough to prove that they were saved. What about Calvary Chapel West Palm Beach, did that one survive the CC Florida curse? Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/82410505140/a-2008-study-found-that-women-showed-signs-of, Ohhh, Lorenzo, bad form to shout in all caps. is it possible you source could be wrong. Isnt this why our precious savior came? We all need to take the telephone pole out of our own eye before we look at the speck of dust in our brothers eye. , - ; , . The dicey part for this church is that there is a chance that some leadership people knew this was an ongoing problem for years. He teaches clearly that one can take the Mark of the beast and still be redeemed. Women would come in promiscuous outfits -they would say How do you know it is not a prostitute looking for Jesus? And when some were gone like that in recent years, it was probably said, they were troublemakers, or, they didnt respect the work of God, and so on and so on. In May, Matt Tague, an assistant pastor at North Coast Calvary Chapel in San Diego, was arrested on 16 counts of lewd and lascivious acts on a minor under 14 years old. John Buttera obituary in Hot Rod Magazine: "Boyd Coddington, Hot Rod King, Dead At Age 63", "Iconic "Cadzzilla" Part of New Exhibit at Saratoga Automobile Museum", "Boyd Coddington, 63, King of Hot Rods, Dies", "Troubled Company Reporter BOYDS WHEELS: Third Quarter Report", "Boyd Coddington, Hot Rod Hero, Dies at 63", Boyd Coddington, 63; custom car designer starred on 'American Hot Rod' Los Angeles Times, Boyd Coddington Helps Exhume Buried 1957 Plymouth Belvedere in Tulsa, Oklahoma, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Boyd_Coddington&oldid=1124304394, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using infobox person with multiple spouses, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 28 November 2022, at 07:41. Bob wrote: Now how a man can be considered a great Bible expositor when he teaches that its OK to take the Mark?. Lets see you tie that to Rev 20. If you were trying to help and that help in some way exposed something evil-there were plans to rid of you. Just answer these questions my friend, and you will know if youre a preterist scripture denying disciple of Calvin or a Bible believing follower of Jesus! (It's unclear if he worked there.) It probably didnt help that Doug Oldham had defected and gone from the Old Time Gospel Hour to Jimmys show. Sorry that I crashed your little party! So Blessed to hear this,what an awesome speaker,God Bless You Diane! So engaging with a second person right now, not interested. "The media ministry of the Active Word that distributes his Bible teachings through radio, television and digital media has also been suspended. Not only of church/pastors in my past, but unfortunately, I know too well the pain Diane Coy is feeling having been there myself. My prayers are with Pastor Bob, Diane, and the kids. Coy's church won the suit plus $81,000 in damages and fees and the city, which organized the event, stopped offering sponsorships out of concern that hate groups might take advantage of the ruling. Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. Others have met as well so we are a bit of a family although not admired by all. Michael, I look forward to the upcoming week then as it pertains to reading what those folks working on those conversations have to say. Instead go to the surest source about Jesus, the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. #RealLove. The church has 10 campuses around Florida and has hosted numerous evangelical speakers, including evangelist Billy Graham, author and speaker Joni Eareckson Tada and actor Kirk Cameron. And, I dont see anyone coming to the defense of his co-sinners why not all since you defend one of the sinners so vigorously? Someday, all our sins will be revealed, you may be surprised who has hidden this type of sin, how prevalent it is, and how many are struggling to not be exposed for fear of being treated like we are treating Bob Coy. As a matter of fact is your life faultless?..I know mine isnt yet we strive for wholeness in Him. That whole situation made everyone pleased. 34 For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he himself says, The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand, 35 until I make your enemies your footstool., 36 Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom you crucified.. Also, I notice Chef is no longer listed as a pastor. Listen to my advise forget what others are doing if you are having issues with porn, just stop it. Of courseleave it to the Pharisees to fight amongst, not for, themselves. So now Im not saved? That was my first church. I will be giving more information as it is vetted. Many evangelicals get saved and still do the same sins as before or trade them in for worse sins. So they began to buy out failing churches in the area and use large screens. Your soteriological arrogance is nauseating. What else was I wrong about? Who cares about me now that Im not influential or important?. Right now, my concern is for the wife, the children, and the congregation. Reforming catholicism doesnt work. They said to heck with it, we cannot put up with Bishop Stephan any longer, so they gathered his stuff and put him and his stuff in a canoe, and sent him across the river and told him not to come back. And yes I have seen it all and have the scoop. "I was living a life of sex, drugs, and rock 'n' roll, literally," Coy told Stetzer. I will draw no further comparisons between yourself and a bird with a brain the size of a nut. How sad. Yes he lost his Kingdom but he gets to keep the treasure! Why? This will certainly be a season of emotional turmoil for CC Fort Lauderdale, as they lose their senior pastor. 12 And He will set up an ensign for the nations, and will assemble the dispersed of Israel, and gather together the scattered of Judah from the four corners of the earth. I think he (Stanley) was the first to do this. A rich man has freedom to embrace the world. He resigned. Is an argument really being expressed that the reporting of the news should have waited until after Sunday for Bobs wife and his children? people need to vent, to be angry, to feel betrayed and to weep. It was catholic Augustine that popularized the false amillennial position, since he envisioned the catholic church as taking control of the world (dominionism back before it was widespread). 11 I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. He got the idea from Andy Stanley to do satellite churches. The accusations reveal in graphic detail that Coy forced the girl to perform oral sex on him, and that he "digitally penetrated her.". And so are you. You have never read any of Luthers writings (I am sure at best you have read only out of context internet quotes) so a discussion about Luther would be unprofitable. None of us can understand how that kind of money can insulate us from anything we dont want to deal with. Coy was fired from his consulting job at a South Florida nightclub, The Funky Biscuit. The enemy is now going to go to work and use this to do precisely what I see going on in this blog. This is really funny have all of you married guys been tempted and have actually struggled to not have an affair. IMO, in many ways, this is a good thing. Coy obviously didnt teach the whole counsel verse by verse. If I was a Calvinist I would still punch you in the blog-mouth with your silliness. As a supportive friend, I have questions, too.. Whatever happened to preaching The Bible, and not ones own brand of The Gospel? Now either dialogue with respect or go back to selling bridges to imaginary Calvinists. Its not that I am questioning you, just that what you say rings truer to what I have heard in the past. My moneys on Michaeland everything Im hearing from my sources confirms it. They too should hear, hey, we all sin, we all slip up. This doesnt directly have to do with the issue on hand but just some insight .. Hopefully the believers will recover quickly and put their faith in Jesus to find a new place or to remain, but they will need to examine their faith first. God bless. MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way., LOL. You say regarding John Macarthur, Otherwise, at least he doesnt get rich off of Jesus and doesnt bilk people of their money and tows the moral line he lays down. Really? Personally I think Hughs comments are refreshing and realistic. Why hasnt it been called adultery?? David was disqualified after his adultery with Bathsheba, Uriahs wife, from that building. Also keep in mind that many here have something in common and that is bad experiences with churches and pastors, while some of us remain to try and minister and fellowship, as well as listen and empathize, with those hurts. As it is biblical to do so. Not only is he a humble man for someone who held that position for so long but pride does not throw you into that kind of sin, its if anything, coveting what is not yours that does. The revelations come at a sensitive moment for Calvary's national network of about 1,800 churches, which have been riven by legal infighting and dogged by claims that bad pastors have been allowed to run amok. Did you answer the questions? Well the subject is that is Bob Coy is not fit to be a Pastor because of his sexual indiscretions. Look Jesus does speak of his return very clearly in Matt 25, the 2nd half about the sheep and the goats 1.) Mary, Of course I believe in the return of Jesus I dont believe in a rapture beforehand and I do not believe in a 1,000 yr earthly reign afterwards. Cant seem to wonder if Pastor Clay knew something and that is why he resigned the end of last year. The statement went on to say that a team of assistant pastors already on staff will maintain their usual rotating schedule as teaching pastors for all services. I dont think it was ever told. Sad, very sad because this affects many congregations, not just FTL. Those in his wake need compassion. It is a struggle not to disrespect and dishonor her? Only God can recover that man from what the enemy has so carefully, and with precision timing, orchestrated to bring dishonor to Gods kingdom. But the case soon stalled. You said that the 1,000 yrs had to be taken literally. Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? Like some kind of fog was around them. You have defended your right to report the story, which I cannot dispute, and have vigorously expressed that those who disagree are killing the messenger or throwing you under the busbut my point was not to indeed do such, but to state that, due to the lives that are affected by this story (his family), and yes, by his sin, which I do not excuse in any way, that it may not have been in good humanity or taste to have reported the story before the church did on April 6.